Comments on: Returning Home Culture Shock? http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/ Backpacking Around the World Wed, 01 Sep 2024 11:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Audrey http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1704 Audrey Wed, 01 Sep 2024 11:34:39 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1704 That's the million dollar question - are we improving. On our last visit to the States, we noticed a lot of things that indicated "status quo" based on the position the country held for so long as the "most developed and powerful country in the world" and that we would just naturally hold that position. But, take a visit to China or some other countries in Asia and you'll see how much more advanced they are in public transport and quite a few other technologies as they could leap frog ahead. Will also be curious to see how China does with renewable energy research and investments. That’s the million dollar question – are we improving. On our last visit to the States, we noticed a lot of things that indicated “status quo” based on the position the country held for so long as the “most developed and powerful country in the world” and that we would just naturally hold that position. But, take a visit to China or some other countries in Asia and you’ll see how much more advanced they are in public transport and quite a few other technologies as they could leap frog ahead. Will also be curious to see how China does with renewable energy research and investments.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1702 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:20:07 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1702 I don't think I can get rid of my baseball cards, but I do have plenty of other stuff! I don’t think I can get rid of my baseball cards, but I do have plenty of other stuff!

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1701 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:19:02 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1701 Thanks for the comment Scot. You raise some good points on why other countries haven't reached the consumerism as you see in the States yet. I do believe they are heading in that direction. I think the more developed countries set the example and less developed countries follow. I saw many blue painted tiendas with the TIGO logo in Latin America. It will come to them too. Thanks for the comment Scot. You raise some good points on why other countries haven’t reached the consumerism as you see in the States yet. I do believe they are heading in that direction. I think the more developed countries set the example and less developed countries follow. I saw many blue painted tiendas with the TIGO logo in Latin America. It will come to them too.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1699 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:14:44 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1699 We should always improve. And I am currently wondering if we are indeed improving. It's a tough question. We should always improve. And I am currently wondering if we are indeed improving. It’s a tough question.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1698 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:13:24 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1698 And it's not even about how far that money can go while traveling (although that goes through our mind too), it's about what else that money can be used for, like paying off debt. We don't want our government to live in debt, but we do... so why shouldn't they? And it’s not even about how far that money can go while traveling (although that goes through our mind too), it’s about what else that money can be used for, like paying off debt. We don’t want our government to live in debt, but we do… so why shouldn’t they?

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1697 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:04:10 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1697 Not a bad idea at all Andi. It would help us get back into the budget traveler state of mind. We hope to spend a lot of time Couchsurfing across the US during our road trips. Not a bad idea at all Andi. It would help us get back into the budget traveler state of mind. We hope to spend a lot of time Couchsurfing across the US during our road trips.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:02:50 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1696 The problem with waste and conservation is that we can't see it. And if we can't see it, or rather, if it doesn't effect our lives directly, typically humans won't react. It's an individual society that looks to prosper short term. The problem with waste and conservation is that we can’t see it. And if we can’t see it, or rather, if it doesn’t effect our lives directly, typically humans won’t react. It’s an individual society that looks to prosper short term.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1695 Jason Wed, 01 Sep 2024 03:00:39 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1695 Yup Dan, you are right too. Unfortunately, the United States economy is dependent on that behavior. Yup Dan, you are right too. Unfortunately, the United States economy is dependent on that behavior.

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By: Gareth Leonard http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1692 Gareth Leonard Tue, 31 Aug 2024 22:18:19 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1692 Wow this is incredible. This is exactly how I'm feeling write now. I was just about to write a "Status Update" about being back in New York and you took a lot of the words right out of my mouth. The first thing I did when I got back home was gut my room, the garage and the basement of all the worthless stuff I've collected over the years. Now I just need to find a place that buys baseball cards! Great article. Wow this is incredible. This is exactly how I’m feeling write now. I was just about to write a “Status Update” about being back in New York and you took a lot of the words right out of my mouth.
The first thing I did when I got back home was gut my room, the garage and the basement of all the worthless stuff I’ve collected over the years. Now I just need to find a place that buys baseball cards!

Great article.

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By: scot d http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1691 scot d Tue, 31 Aug 2024 20:06:26 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1691 Yes, yes and yes - good post and I totally agree. Returning home from a four month trip through central and south america, mine and my fiancee's 're-entry' experience mirrors yours. Too much stuff - we did the exact same. Thought we'd gotten rid of so many things before we left...then got ride of so much more when we returned. Is it because we got used to travelling with less, or simply that we met people who were happier with less? Or is it because we escaped from the incessant assault of marketing messages? Or simply because there were less places to buy things or less capacity to transport them? I don't care. Happier without so much stuff! A great book we read when we came home was Tim Ferris' 'For Hour Week' - have you read it? he strongly advocates down-sizing, as well as trying to incorporate more travel experiences into your work. Reading it helped us when we came back to the 'real world' after time in the Amazon rainforest and other places. I'm with you regarding cars, too. Our 'new' car is pretty ancient, unattractive, fuel efficient, practical, cheap wonderful piece of machinery. Makes my friend's Benz look even more ostentatious. Still, we're the 'weird ones' for choosing such a 'piece of crap'. Thing is, travelling gives you that wisdom, strength and sense of sureness in your decisions. So no matter what advertisers or even friends say, you know that down sizing, consuming less and being less wasteful is the right thing to do. Anyway, good post, thanks for sharing it! Yes, yes and yes – good post and I totally agree.

Returning home from a four month trip through central and south america, mine and my fiancee’s ‘re-entry’ experience mirrors yours.

Too much stuff – we did the exact same. Thought we’d gotten rid of so many things before we left…then got ride of so much more when we returned. Is it because we got used to travelling with less, or simply that we met people who were happier with less? Or is it because we escaped from the incessant assault of marketing messages? Or simply because there were less places to buy things or less capacity to transport them? I don’t care. Happier without so much stuff!

A great book we read when we came home was Tim Ferris’ ‘For Hour Week’ – have you read it? he strongly advocates down-sizing, as well as trying to incorporate more travel experiences into your work. Reading it helped us when we came back to the ‘real world’ after time in the Amazon rainforest and other places.

I’m with you regarding cars, too. Our ‘new’ car is pretty ancient, unattractive, fuel efficient, practical, cheap wonderful piece of machinery. Makes my friend’s Benz look even more ostentatious. Still, we’re the ‘weird ones’ for choosing such a ‘piece of crap’.

Thing is, travelling gives you that wisdom, strength and sense of sureness in your decisions. So no matter what advertisers or even friends say, you know that down sizing, consuming less and being less wasteful is the right thing to do.

Anyway, good post, thanks for sharing it!

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By: Audrey http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1690 Audrey Tue, 31 Aug 2024 17:40:23 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1690 I think one of the best ways to both appreciate and cast an objective eye on your home country is to travel or live abroad. The United States is a fantastic country that is home to incredible opportunity and so much potential. However, I often get frustrated and overwhelmed when we return to the States by the consumption and what is considered "normal." Traveling through Latin America, Europe, and Asia has also made me realize that the United States has a lot to learn from other countries in terms of public transportation, energy conservation, mobile connectivity and more. Each country has good and bad points; the goal is to always improve. I think one of the best ways to both appreciate and cast an objective eye on your home country is to travel or live abroad. The United States is a fantastic country that is home to incredible opportunity and so much potential. However, I often get frustrated and overwhelmed when we return to the States by the consumption and what is considered “normal.” Traveling through Latin America, Europe, and Asia has also made me realize that the United States has a lot to learn from other countries in terms of public transportation, energy conservation, mobile connectivity and more. Each country has good and bad points; the goal is to always improve.

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By: Alonna http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1688 Alonna Tue, 31 Aug 2024 02:40:51 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1688 Welcome home guys! Ben and I have been back from our RTW trip for 3 months now. We struggle with this as well - and we came home to our house filled with much, much more than 10 rubbermaids! Another way we've changed a lot is money and how to spend it. We've always been a bit frugal, but now it's so hard to keep my mouth shut when friends and family talk about spending money on new cars, fancy landscaping, or replacing kitchen cabinets. Now I know how far that money can go while traveling, and it makes me sad to watch people spend it on more "things" instead of experiences. One more point - when/if you "settle" down somewhere, try hosting couchsurfers. They typically have similar views, and it's very refreshing to find people you can relate to on these issues. Good luck! Welcome home guys! Ben and I have been back from our RTW trip for 3 months now. We struggle with this as well – and we came home to our house filled with much, much more than 10 rubbermaids!

Another way we’ve changed a lot is money and how to spend it. We’ve always been a bit frugal, but now it’s so hard to keep my mouth shut when friends and family talk about spending money on new cars, fancy landscaping, or replacing kitchen cabinets. Now I know how far that money can go while traveling, and it makes me sad to watch people spend it on more “things” instead of experiences.

One more point – when/if you “settle” down somewhere, try hosting couchsurfers. They typically have similar views, and it’s very refreshing to find people you can relate to on these issues. Good luck!

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By: Andi http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1687 Andi Tue, 31 Aug 2024 02:21:24 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1687 I agree the hardest part if finding people to relate to! Maybe meet up with some local CSers to discuss traveling stories? I agree the hardest part if finding people to relate to! Maybe meet up with some local CSers to discuss traveling stories?

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By: Earl http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1685 Earl Mon, 30 Aug 2024 21:28:13 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1685 On my last visit home to the US, I was surprised to find so many of my friends and family interested in 'shopping' for no other reason than to fill up their time. There was that 'if I'm bored, I can always go and buy something' mentality, which of course is quite hard to understand when one has been traveling out of a backpack for so long. When I was in Australia last year, the government launched a campaign where they mailed hourglass timers out to every household, asking everyone to use them in order to limit their showers to under four minutes in duration. Every single person I knew in Australia used the timers and reduced their showers to under four minutes. When I explained this interesting idea to people at home, the most common response was, "nobody is going to stop me from taking my 10 minute shower!" Clearly there is just a vastly different mentality when it comes to certain aspects of conservation and waste. On my last visit home to the US, I was surprised to find so many of my friends and family interested in ‘shopping’ for no other reason than to fill up their time. There was that ‘if I’m bored, I can always go and buy something’ mentality, which of course is quite hard to understand when one has been traveling out of a backpack for so long.

When I was in Australia last year, the government launched a campaign where they mailed hourglass timers out to every household, asking everyone to use them in order to limit their showers to under four minutes in duration. Every single person I knew in Australia used the timers and reduced their showers to under four minutes.

When I explained this interesting idea to people at home, the most common response was, “nobody is going to stop me from taking my 10 minute shower!”

Clearly there is just a vastly different mentality when it comes to certain aspects of conservation and waste.

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By: Dan http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1684 Dan Mon, 30 Aug 2024 21:06:14 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1684 Nice article, nice to know I'm not the only one who also thinks this way. After growing up in Brazil, I completely understand your point, especially living in the US now. Everyone at work and people we know, they all seem to have "everything", but when it comes down to it, what do they really have? A huge debt, credit card bills and student loans pilling and a subprime mortgage they can't long afford. Me, I have my family and no need to keep up with jones. Nice article, nice to know I’m not the only one who also thinks this way. After growing up in Brazil, I completely understand your point, especially living in the US now. Everyone at work and people we know, they all seem to have “everything”, but when it comes down to it, what do they really have? A huge debt, credit card bills and student loans pilling and a subprime mortgage they can’t long afford. Me, I have my family and no need to keep up with jones.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1683 Jason Mon, 30 Aug 2024 19:47:32 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1683 You are exactly right Adam, as time goes on it's going to be harder to keep these fresh views in our minds. Funny you mentioned the leftovers, we talk about that almost everyday. It's a constant struggle, especially with how easy it is to buy more. I am the guilty one with the MacBook Pro, it's my weakness. We each have our weaknesses I am sure, but its a step in the right direction to be aware and begin to make the changes necessary. You are exactly right Adam, as time goes on it’s going to be harder to keep these fresh views in our minds. Funny you mentioned the leftovers, we talk about that almost everyday. It’s a constant struggle, especially with how easy it is to buy more. I am the guilty one with the MacBook Pro, it’s my weakness. We each have our weaknesses I am sure, but its a step in the right direction to be aware and begin to make the changes necessary.

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By: Jason http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 Jason Mon, 30 Aug 2024 19:45:03 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1682 Awesome movie! That line is so true. Awesome movie! That line is so true.

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By: Adam http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1681 Adam Mon, 30 Aug 2024 19:42:02 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1681 Great post guys! We felt much of the same things upon returning home from our year of traveling, and we came to many of the same conclusions you did, particularly with how wasteful we are as a society. We are just so much more aware now when it comes to waste. We didn't think twice about having a big meal, throwing the leftovers in the fridge, not really "wanting" to eat them the next few days, then tossing them out when they got too old. Now we just simply can't do something like that. Food is needed so much in so many other parts of the world that we just can't bring ourselves to throw out a perfectly good meal simply because we'd rather eat something else. We have tried really hard since our return to waste as little as possible, and that's just when it comes to food. But all the other stuff you mentioned is also important--plates for holidays, shoes to go with every outfit, stuff, stuff, and more stuff. Sure, stuff is nice, but it really was so much simpler when we only had a few outfits and one bag. It just made life easier. Sometimes we view all this stuff as nothing more than a hindrance. Great post as this rings so true to us. Now the challenge is keeping this mindset as you are here longer and adjust to this life again. Great post guys! We felt much of the same things upon returning home from our year of traveling, and we came to many of the same conclusions you did, particularly with how wasteful we are as a society.

We are just so much more aware now when it comes to waste. We didn’t think twice about having a big meal, throwing the leftovers in the fridge, not really “wanting” to eat them the next few days, then tossing them out when they got too old.

Now we just simply can’t do something like that. Food is needed so much in so many other parts of the world that we just can’t bring ourselves to throw out a perfectly good meal simply because we’d rather eat something else. We have tried really hard since our return to waste as little as possible, and that’s just when it comes to food.

But all the other stuff you mentioned is also important–plates for holidays, shoes to go with every outfit, stuff, stuff, and more stuff. Sure, stuff is nice, but it really was so much simpler when we only had a few outfits and one bag. It just made life easier. Sometimes we view all this stuff as nothing more than a hindrance.

Great post as this rings so true to us. Now the challenge is keeping this mindset as you are here longer and adjust to this life again.

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By: Stacy http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1680 Stacy Mon, 30 Aug 2024 19:40:08 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1680 "the stuff you own begins to own you" -- Fight Club Loved this post. Thanks! “the stuff you own begins to own you” — Fight Club

Loved this post. Thanks!

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By: LeslieTravel http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 LeslieTravel Mon, 30 Aug 2024 19:34:24 +0000 http://twobackpackers.com/5303/reflections/returning-home-culture-shock/#comment-1679 Great post! I can relate, After I spent a year backpacking RTW, it was strange to be home in North America. I also was shocked by how much stuff we had. I've been back in NY for a year now, and find that it's easy to get sucked back into the old way of life... cherish those memories! :) Great post! I can relate, After I spent a year backpacking RTW, it was strange to be home in North America. I also was shocked by how much stuff we had. I’ve been back in NY for a year now, and find that it’s easy to get sucked back into the old way of life… cherish those memories! :)

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